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	<title>Comments on: Building a stereo microphone array for nature recording</title>
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		<title>By: Magnus</title>
		<link>http://www.pterodaktyl.co.uk/2009/02/21/building-an-ortf-array-for-nature-recording/comment-page-1/#comment-46539</link>
		<dc:creator>Magnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 15:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom,
Thanks for a fantastic guide!

I built a rig for my NT1-A&#039;s this weekend and put up some pictures that can be found on my blog:

http://inovember.wordpress.com/2010/10/04/diy-stereo-rig-for-nt1-as/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,<br />
Thanks for a fantastic guide!</p>
<p>I built a rig for my NT1-A&#8217;s this weekend and put up some pictures that can be found on my blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://inovember.wordpress.com/2010/10/04/diy-stereo-rig-for-nt1-as/" rel="nofollow">http://inovember.wordpress.com/2010/10/04/diy-stereo-rig-for-nt1-as/</a></p>
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		<title>By: DIY stereo rig for NT1-A&#8217;s &#171; inovember</title>
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		<dc:creator>DIY stereo rig for NT1-A&#8217;s &#171; inovember</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 07:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here to see Tom Williams nice guide that I followed. I must say that I&#8217;m kind of proud that I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] here to see Tom Williams nice guide that I followed. I must say that I&#8217;m kind of proud that I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 07:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And frogs

http://acousticlight.net/blog/?tag=frogs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And frogs</p>
<p><a href="http://acousticlight.net/blog/?tag=frogs" rel="nofollow">http://acousticlight.net/blog/?tag=frogs</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

Yes, if you put the two NT1-As in a pair of vertically mounted Rode or Rycote blimps you&#039;ll end up with a rather more effective (in terms of wind reduction) version of what I built. How do you mount the NT1-A inside the blimp though? Most of the mountings available are designed for narrow-bodied mics like the Sennheiser ME or MKH series, not hefty studio mics like the NT1-A!

I&#039;d love to try surround recording, but alas my budget won&#039;t stretch to another 2 NT1-As and a 4-channel recorder at the moment. I&#039;d love to hear some of your work though, so please do post a link.

Cheers,

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>Yes, if you put the two NT1-As in a pair of vertically mounted Rode or Rycote blimps you&#8217;ll end up with a rather more effective (in terms of wind reduction) version of what I built. How do you mount the NT1-A inside the blimp though? Most of the mountings available are designed for narrow-bodied mics like the Sennheiser ME or MKH series, not hefty studio mics like the NT1-A!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to try surround recording, but alas my budget won&#8217;t stretch to another 2 NT1-As and a 4-channel recorder at the moment. I&#8217;d love to hear some of your work though, so please do post a link.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom
Glad that you are enjoying your NT1-A&#039;s for nature recording.
I have been using 2 NT1-A&#039;s for a year now recording environmental ambiance recordings and am very happy with them (In Australia). I use the Rode Blimp to house each on of them - I am sure it works very similar to your setup. I use a Edirol R44 for the recorder and find that the mic pre amps work well for me. I use Sound Forge 9 to edit the clips and need to normalise and run a noise reduction plugin as there is often some form of background noise that can intrude. The critical thing with environmental recordings is to do it when there is very little wind, and limited background noise and then you are guarrenteed a good clip to work with. I have tested a number of other mics, but come back to the NT1-A&#039;s as they are so quiet and have a great sound. I have recently added two more NT1-A&#039;s to my setup and do 4 track recordings which I render to AC-3 surround sound. It truely adds another dimention and a big smile to my face when I take time out in my surround sound audio room. You should try it - it takes the experience to another level. I will be setting up my web page again and will post you a link to the sample files if you are interested, Cheers Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom<br />
Glad that you are enjoying your NT1-A&#8217;s for nature recording.<br />
I have been using 2 NT1-A&#8217;s for a year now recording environmental ambiance recordings and am very happy with them (In Australia). I use the Rode Blimp to house each on of them &#8211; I am sure it works very similar to your setup. I use a Edirol R44 for the recorder and find that the mic pre amps work well for me. I use Sound Forge 9 to edit the clips and need to normalise and run a noise reduction plugin as there is often some form of background noise that can intrude. The critical thing with environmental recordings is to do it when there is very little wind, and limited background noise and then you are guarrenteed a good clip to work with. I have tested a number of other mics, but come back to the NT1-A&#8217;s as they are so quiet and have a great sound. I have recently added two more NT1-A&#8217;s to my setup and do 4 track recordings which I render to AC-3 surround sound. It truely adds another dimention and a big smile to my face when I take time out in my surround sound audio room. You should try it &#8211; it takes the experience to another level. I will be setting up my web page again and will post you a link to the sample files if you are interested, Cheers Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan,

I&#039;m not really sure the design is refined enough yet that I&#039;d want to take anyone&#039;s cash to build one for them... maybe when I&#039;ve improved on the windshield design a bit, but there&#039;s a long way to go before I start competing with Rycote!

If you decide to have a go at building your own I&#039;d be more than happy to run through the specific materials, dimensions etc. that I used - everything can be picked up at one of the larger B&amp;Q stores, and you don&#039;t need any special tools beyond a basic electric drill.

Cheers,

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not really sure the design is refined enough yet that I&#8217;d want to take anyone&#8217;s cash to build one for them&#8230; maybe when I&#8217;ve improved on the windshield design a bit, but there&#8217;s a long way to go before I start competing with Rycote!</p>
<p>If you decide to have a go at building your own I&#8217;d be more than happy to run through the specific materials, dimensions etc. that I used &#8211; everything can be picked up at one of the larger B&amp;Q stores, and you don&#8217;t need any special tools beyond a basic electric drill.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - sorry for the late reply! Thanks so much for getting back to me.
Totally agree about the 30/40 noise floor - the NTs are quite outstanding.

Thanks for the info - I need to have a go really at building it and see how I get on. That is unless you fancy naming a price to build one - I&#039;m happy to pay a proper price for your time and the bits. 

Thanks again.

Jonathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; sorry for the late reply! Thanks so much for getting back to me.<br />
Totally agree about the 30/40 noise floor &#8211; the NTs are quite outstanding.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info &#8211; I need to have a go really at building it and see how I get on. That is unless you fancy naming a price to build one &#8211; I&#8217;m happy to pay a proper price for your time and the bits. </p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
<p>Jonathan</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan,

Yes, the noise floor of the NT1-As is fairly spectacular. I often notice on 30/40 M/S recordings that the self-noise is high enough to be intrusive in a quiet environment. You still can&#039;t beat that set-up for portability though!

I did originally plan to have the microphones completely inside the pipe with a cut-out section, however I was worried that there might be cavity resonance effects between the capsule and the inner wall of the pipe. In the end I cut the pipe to the length of the microphone body, excluding the mesh capsule shield. Once the microphone is mounted the XLR socket on the bottom is roughly level with the bottom of the pipe, and the capsule pokes out the top. The mesh wrapped around the outside of the pipe then provides the rest of the height needed to support the fur windshield.

The bands are doubled up for strength and passed through holes on drilled in either side of the pipe, then looped around offcut pieces of cable tie to hold them in place. The only flaw in this is that when a band breaks the outer mesh will have to be removed to replace it... but Royal Mail obviously chooses well because this hasn&#039;t happened yet.

If you want any more details or pictures of a specific part of the set-up let me know, and I&#039;ll get you some photos next time I have the fur off.

Cheers,

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan,</p>
<p>Yes, the noise floor of the NT1-As is fairly spectacular. I often notice on 30/40 M/S recordings that the self-noise is high enough to be intrusive in a quiet environment. You still can&#8217;t beat that set-up for portability though!</p>
<p>I did originally plan to have the microphones completely inside the pipe with a cut-out section, however I was worried that there might be cavity resonance effects between the capsule and the inner wall of the pipe. In the end I cut the pipe to the length of the microphone body, excluding the mesh capsule shield. Once the microphone is mounted the XLR socket on the bottom is roughly level with the bottom of the pipe, and the capsule pokes out the top. The mesh wrapped around the outside of the pipe then provides the rest of the height needed to support the fur windshield.</p>
<p>The bands are doubled up for strength and passed through holes on drilled in either side of the pipe, then looped around offcut pieces of cable tie to hold them in place. The only flaw in this is that when a band breaks the outer mesh will have to be removed to replace it&#8230; but Royal Mail obviously chooses well because this hasn&#8217;t happened yet.</p>
<p>If you want any more details or pictures of a specific part of the set-up let me know, and I&#8217;ll get you some photos next time I have the fur off.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 07:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom, 

Like your design. Could I trouble you for a few more details on it?
 I too have bought the Rode NT1-A matched pair. They are extremely impressive.
I used to do a lot of SFX recording for various libraries with a portadat and a Sennheiser 30/40 MS setup in a Rycote suspension.
I sold that kit years ago now but now am looking to do some more. It&#039;s amazing to me that some very good and expensive mics havequite high inherent noise floors. I work in music and voiceovers for radio/tv - mainly using a Neuman u87 for vo work. Lovely sounding mic and fine working close but it has far too much noise for anything else.

NT1-As are a bit of a find - for the money quite amazing. At the moment I am using them through a Fireface 400 interface and a MacBook Pro - which sounds great as the Fireface has excellent preamps but it&#039;s not particularly mobile! However it&#039;s workable and like you did to start I have the NTs on a stereo bar in their Rode mounts.

But I shall have to pay a visit to B&amp;Q I suspect. So in your picture you have cut the length of the drainpipe to that of the body of the NTs - and then cut out a forward facing section - leaving a strut to the top and bottom rings as it were? Some holes in the rings for the bands? Then wrapped that in the mesh? Sorry it that&#039;s all obvious!

Nice work - cheers for now.

Jonathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom, </p>
<p>Like your design. Could I trouble you for a few more details on it?<br />
 I too have bought the Rode NT1-A matched pair. They are extremely impressive.<br />
I used to do a lot of SFX recording for various libraries with a portadat and a Sennheiser 30/40 MS setup in a Rycote suspension.<br />
I sold that kit years ago now but now am looking to do some more. It&#8217;s amazing to me that some very good and expensive mics havequite high inherent noise floors. I work in music and voiceovers for radio/tv &#8211; mainly using a Neuman u87 for vo work. Lovely sounding mic and fine working close but it has far too much noise for anything else.</p>
<p>NT1-As are a bit of a find &#8211; for the money quite amazing. At the moment I am using them through a Fireface 400 interface and a MacBook Pro &#8211; which sounds great as the Fireface has excellent preamps but it&#8217;s not particularly mobile! However it&#8217;s workable and like you did to start I have the NTs on a stereo bar in their Rode mounts.</p>
<p>But I shall have to pay a visit to B&amp;Q I suspect. So in your picture you have cut the length of the drainpipe to that of the body of the NTs &#8211; and then cut out a forward facing section &#8211; leaving a strut to the top and bottom rings as it were? Some holes in the rings for the bands? Then wrapped that in the mesh? Sorry it that&#8217;s all obvious!</p>
<p>Nice work &#8211; cheers for now.</p>
<p>Jonathan</p>
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		<title>By: Taisto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taisto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, yes I have met this site. 

Anyway, your version looks more proper design.

Let`s invent!

I make certainly some photos when succeed.

Taisto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, yes I have met this site. </p>
<p>Anyway, your version looks more proper design.</p>
<p>Let`s invent!</p>
<p>I make certainly some photos when succeed.</p>
<p>Taisto</p>
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